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Re: TORA TEC 24 Hours of Nurburgring: Lap Times

Post by F4H ForceOne on Mon 28 Nov 2016 - 0:46

CAR Harmonic wrote:8:16.9 in the Vette. Did an 8:13.5 in the Viper, so we had to take the brakes off. I'm doing full front, no rear aero.
Is that with traction on in the corvette? I can't decide if it's better on or off, or if I just suck at driving with TCS.
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Post by HCR Motorhead on Mon 28 Nov 2016 - 1:05

F4H ForceOne wrote:
CAR Harmonic wrote:8:16.9 in the Vette. Did an 8:13.5 in the Viper, so we had to take the brakes off. I'm doing full front, no rear aero.
Is that with traction on in the corvette? I can't decide if it's better on or off, or if I just suck at driving with TCS.

It's just a nope time, limited to aliens! I'll be happy to circulate under 8:30 and not crash lol! lol!


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Post by Mr Driv3 on Mon 28 Nov 2016 - 3:22

HCR Motorhead wrote:
F4H ForceOne wrote:
CAR Harmonic wrote:8:16.9 in the Vette. Did an 8:13.5 in the Viper, so we had to take the brakes off. I'm doing full front, no rear aero.
Is that with traction on in the corvette? I can't decide if it's better on or off, or if I just suck at driving with TCS.

It's just a nope time, limited to aliens! I'll be happy to circulate under 8:30 and not crash lol! lol!

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Post by MID LAND ZETA on Mon 28 Nov 2016 - 5:36

Mr Driv3 wrote:
HCR Motorhead wrote:
F4H ForceOne wrote:
CAR Harmonic wrote:8:16.9 in the Vette. Did an 8:13.5 in the Viper, so we had to take the brakes off. I'm doing full front, no rear aero.
Is that with traction on in the corvette? I can't decide if it's better on or off, or if I just suck at driving with TCS.

It's just a nope time, limited to aliens! I'll be happy to circulate under 8:30 and not crash lol! lol!

Glad I'm not the only one thinking that Laughing
you can get a 8.16 you just have to believe...that's how it works right Razz lol!


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Post by HCR Motorhead on Mon 28 Nov 2016 - 5:48

MID LAND ZETA wrote:
Mr Driv3 wrote:
HCR Motorhead wrote:
F4H ForceOne wrote:
CAR Harmonic wrote:8:16.9 in the Vette. Did an 8:13.5 in the Viper, so we had to take the brakes off. I'm doing full front, no rear aero.
Is that with traction on in the corvette? I can't decide if it's better on or off, or if I just suck at driving with TCS.

It's just a nope time, limited to aliens! I'll be happy to circulate under 8:30 and not crash lol! lol!

Glad I'm not the only one thinking that Laughing
you can get a 8.16 you just have to believe...that's how it works right Razz lol!

Did believing get you a 2:16 at Spa? lol! lol!


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Post by MID LAND ZETA on Mon 28 Nov 2016 - 5:57

HCR Motorhead wrote:
MID LAND ZETA wrote:
Mr Driv3 wrote:
HCR Motorhead wrote:
F4H ForceOne wrote:
CAR Harmonic wrote:8:16.9 in the Vette. Did an 8:13.5 in the Viper, so we had to take the brakes off. I'm doing full front, no rear aero.
Is that with traction on in the corvette? I can't decide if it's better on or off, or if I just suck at driving with TCS.

It's just a nope time, limited to aliens! I'll be happy to circulate under 8:30 and not crash lol! lol!

Glad I'm not the only one thinking that Laughing
you can get a 8.16 you just have to believe...that's how it works right Razz lol!

Did believing get you a 2:16 at Spa? lol! lol!
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Post by DOR stug77 on Mon 28 Nov 2016 - 9:26

To this day I don't know how you guys do it I really don't :-( lol I was well off the pace at spa in British gt and I'm around a minute down at nurburgring as well all being in a touring car granted
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Post by F4H ForceOne on Mon 28 Nov 2016 - 12:14

I can't decide what a good time will be. I've hit some 18's pretty consistently but I've heard anything from 5 secs quicker to 10 seconds slower.
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Post by xVampirAx on Mon 28 Nov 2016 - 12:30

does anyone have a tune for the corvette as i cannot get under 9 mins, i have tried to tune out the slide from the back but i couldnt make it work and i even looked for a tune that was the same pi but no luck.i just would like a solid tune that will at least get me under 9 mins.
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Post by F4H Hakkinen on Mon 28 Nov 2016 - 16:08

xVampirAx wrote:does anyone have a tune for the corvette as i cannot get under 9 mins, i have tried to tune out the slide from the back but i couldnt make it work and i even looked for a tune that was the same pi but no luck.i just would like a solid tune that will at least get me under 9 mins.

I am sure if you ask Forceone nicely enough and get yourself online at a time he is on, he can share the tune on the storefront for a minute while you grab it.
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Post by F4H ForceOne on Mon 28 Nov 2016 - 17:54

F4H Hakkinen wrote:
xVampirAx wrote:does anyone have a tune for the corvette as i cannot get under 9 mins, i have tried to tune out the slide from the back but i couldnt make it work and i even looked for a tune that was the same pi but no luck.i just would like a solid tune that will at least get me under 9 mins.

I am sure if you ask Forceone nicely enough and get yourself online at a time he is on, he can share the tune on the storefront for a minute while you grab it.
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Post by HCR Motorhead on Mon 28 Nov 2016 - 18:03

That's a very good deal because it's even off limits to me! Wink Say yes Vampira!


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Re: TORA TEC 24 Hours of Nurburgring: Lap Times

Post by F4H Hakkinen on Mon 28 Nov 2016 - 18:47

8:50.717 with splits for 49's. Car is a beast but I'm not even the quickest in TCC for our team this time around.
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Post by Mr Driv3 on Mon 28 Nov 2016 - 21:23

8:26.4xx in the corvette. Vampira, here is one of our tunes that makes the car much nicer to drive, the back end is slippy in the karussell so be careful but other than that it goes quite well, hope this works for you:

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Post by xVampirAx on Mon 28 Nov 2016 - 21:32

cheers dude i shall give that a go.on a side note i did manage to tune out the slide on my own set up and it even improved the times on GP and the Nordschleife but did not try on the 24hr layout but i will give this new tune a go.
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Post by Darkzer24 on Tue 29 Nov 2016 - 3:57

I'm gonna be excited if I can keep you guys in the radar for more than 2 laps lol. Especially in the rain.

Still not running sub-8:30 but no longer eating ArmCo.
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Post by HCR Noodle on Tue 29 Nov 2016 - 7:30

F4H Hakkinen wrote:8:50.717 with splits for 49's. Car is a beast but I'm not even the quickest in TCC for our team this time around.

My best so far is only in the 57's, but plenty of time to improve.



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Post by ruthlessrellik on Wed 30 Nov 2016 - 0:09

Ok I'm really at a loss here. I can't run any better than a 8:51.xxx in the merc GT. Darkzer24 and I are o. The same team and are using the same tune. I'm using TCS only, manual, ABS off. I don't know how I'm so slow. I'd be happy getting another 10 seconds just so I'm out of the way for the TCC cars. Someone please help me.

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Post by Foreu2env on Wed 30 Nov 2016 - 14:22

ruthlessrellik wrote:Ok I'm really at a loss here. I can't run any better than a 8:51.xxx in the merc GT. Darkzer24 and I are o. The same team and are using the same tune. I'm using TCS only, manual, ABS off. I don't know how I'm so slow. I'd be happy getting another 10 seconds just so I'm out of the way for the TCC cars. Someone please help me.

Are you staying on the track every lap or are you coming off track ok a regular basis?

Do you normally run with ABS off or is that new for you?

Are you running with any type of driving line on? Having the braking line might help you.

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Post by F4H Diablo on Wed 30 Nov 2016 - 16:36

It's truly about learning the track. If I followed you, I can guarantee the reason why you're getting those times is because you just don't have the experience to know how fast to go through corners. I hope that doesn't come off as arrogant or elitist, what I mean by that is this: Take the long left after Flugplatz (a.k.a. Schwedenkreuz). It's barely a lift or flat out in the touring cars, with a slight lift in GT cars. If I had to guess, you're probably braking a fair amount for that corner. Watch replays on the Rivals section to see and HEAR the lines, i.e. listen to when someone stays on throttle or not.


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Post by Foreu2env on Wed 30 Nov 2016 - 17:44

F4H Diablo wrote:It's truly about learning the track.

Thats why I had asked if he was staying on track or not. With only a few days left until the race, he needs to focus on the proper fix for his situation.

If he's fast but sloppy, coming off the track on every lap, he shouldnt go watch replays.. he would need to go into free play, set laps to something ridiculous, turn off the lap timer HUD and just go run laps. Lap after lap not thinking about time, just letting the track burn itself into his memory so that he isnt having to think about what corner is next.

If his problem isnt being sloppy, instead of going off track hes staying on track and laying down clean but slow laps, then he needs to do what Diablo said. Go into rivals, turn telemetry on, and watch what others are doing... Then set your rival to someone a few seconds faster than you and work on beating their ghost.. But this method of trying to find ways to be faster through certain sectors/corners will be a waste of time over the next 4 days if he doesnt already have the course memorized.


TL/DR: going off track? Go lay down a ton of laps. Clean but slow? Go spend time watching replays from rivals and try to beat some rival ghosts once you find areas to improve.

But having said all that, Diablo is way faster than I am, so maybe take his advice over mine lol
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Post by Mr Driv3 on Wed 30 Nov 2016 - 19:01

No you guys have the right answers Smile Clean and slow, go to rivals. Having several offs through the lap, learn the track. I am available all night tonight to help with either of those things Smile message me on xbl and I will happily help







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Post by CAR Harmonic on Wed 30 Nov 2016 - 19:46

My Vette time was with TCS on, full front and no rear aero.

For those who find themselves significantly off the pace, turn on the driving line if you don't have it on - it's there for a reason. If that still doesn't help, I heavily suggest going into TC if you're in GT. Having GT cars at TC pace was a problem before.
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Post by F4H Hakkinen on Wed 30 Nov 2016 - 19:50

CAR Harmonic wrote:My Vette time was with TCS on, full front and no rear aero.

For those who find themselves significantly off the pace, turn on the driving line if you don't have it on - it's there for a reason. If that still doesn't help, I heavily suggest going into TC if you're in GT. Having GT cars at TC pace was a problem before.

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Post by Foreu2env on Wed 30 Nov 2016 - 21:20

Whats the starting procedure going to look like? If you give GT a head start ( either 2 minutes or roughly 10,000 feet) then the track layout should prevent top TCC traffic from catching slow GT traffic. If we start every stint that way then TCC wouldnt catch up to the back of GT other than as a reault of wrecks.
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