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F1 - 2010 budget cap ruling.

Post by racelegend MB1 on Wed 20 May 2009 - 17:54

Im presuming this discussion has been started elsewhere, but as im sure most of u are know aware, Ferrari's appeal against the 40 million budget proposed by the FIA, didnt go well today.

Its not looking good in my opinion. Im really suprised of the result because in the past 'what ferrari wants, ferrari get'.

any thoughts guys?
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Re: F1 - 2010 budget cap ruling.

Post by Matt on Wed 20 May 2009 - 17:59

We've been discussing it on MWM.
If Ferrari pull the plug, its not the end for F1. It can live without Ferrari, but without an obvious outlet (other than LMP1) I feel the Scuderia would suffer more out of it.



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Re: F1 - 2010 budget cap ruling.

Post by Shantzez on Wed 20 May 2009 - 18:29

other teams like renault have stated that they would no longer be interested in participating either. If they lose a few teams, the series will be dead in my opinion.
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Re: F1 - 2010 budget cap ruling.

Post by nickyf1 on Wed 20 May 2009 - 19:18

nothing lasts for ever, and to be honest, I would rather see it die before it ruins the worlds magnificent circuits.

Sportscars are the future!
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Re: F1 - 2010 budget cap ruling.

Post by racelegend MB1 on Wed 20 May 2009 - 22:13

fair enough guys, but we should keep f1 the same tbh - its been running fine (sort of) for a couple of decades now - why change it
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Re: F1 - 2010 budget cap ruling.

Post by nickyf1 on Wed 20 May 2009 - 23:50

in the ideal world, it wouldnt be touched, but unfortunately we have the evil of money and greed in our world.
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Re: F1 - 2010 budget cap ruling.

Post by racelegend MB1 on Thu 21 May 2009 - 10:12

nicky wrote:in the ideal world, it wouldnt be touched, but unfortunately we have the evil of money and greed in our world.

You forgot a few more things:

Stupidity,
beaurocracy,
and Nazi Orgies

Laughing
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Re: F1 - 2010 budget cap ruling.

Post by nickyf1 on Thu 21 May 2009 - 13:24

Ah yes, the orgy fund. Max will be saving up for a Ralf Schumacher themed one surely.
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Re: F1 - 2010 budget cap ruling.

Post by ckBrenneke on Thu 21 May 2009 - 21:11

Leave Max [Bad language is not tolerated - Mod Team] alone. The guy is a visionary.

I only ever used two leather clad hookers to whip me, I never considered six!!! Shocked

EDIT - LOl, didn't realise M-osley was on the filter. Was that me? Can't remember...
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Re: F1 - 2010 budget cap ruling.

Post by HCR generaltso on Sat 23 May 2009 - 4:13




everybody look at me cause i'm standing on a boat
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Re: F1 - 2010 budget cap ruling.

Post by Matt on Sat 23 May 2009 - 9:23

.....ok thats just plain creepy!!
Ross has lost ALOT of weight.



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Re: F1 - 2010 budget cap ruling.

Post by racelegend MB1 on Sat 23 May 2009 - 10:24

but very funny though. - think horner should be in there aswell
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Re: F1 - 2010 budget cap ruling.

Post by its troff on Sat 23 May 2009 - 11:47

gen3ral ts0 wrote:


everybody look at me cause i'm standing on a boat

Pisser Smile "it's a big blue watery road"
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Re: F1 - 2010 budget cap ruling.

Post by Matt on Sat 23 May 2009 - 12:05

I think the main issue with this debate is the two tier rules rather than the money itself.
£40m is a HUGE drop for some of the teams but not very much for some of the independants.
The fact is those smaller teams whose business IS F1 will remain and will take advantage of the new system.
The bigger teams who are perfectly able to diversify are the ones kicking off.
I would be suprised if such 'clever' people haven't considered the fact that they can simply 're-allocate' money and staff into other projects. The FIA isn't asking them to actually lay people off or cut their overall budgets. It will affect their F1 activities only.
So...... for the likes of Toyota, Ferrari and McLaren. The options are:
1) Continue moaning and push the sport deeped into crisis.
2) Accept the new rules and continue in F1 only, laying off staff and cutting their budgets substantially.
3) Transfer skilled staff into pre-existing or up coming projects to prevent redundancy costs etc.

Option 3 won't cost anymore money, and with the drop in F1 expenditure, there would be ALOT of excess funding in the 'kitties' to cover this.
A team could run two projects (F1 plus another) for the same as F1 has cost this year potentially.

You can't tell me thats not a good idea?



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Re: F1 - 2010 budget cap ruling.

Post by culchi on Sat 23 May 2009 - 12:10

or they could enter a second team then 2 * €40 million can be spent so long as knowledge is shared lol. Thinking red bull torro rosso here


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Re: F1 - 2010 budget cap ruling.

Post by culchi on Sat 23 May 2009 - 12:18

oh lol
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12433_5343160,00.html
Bernie is gonna sue ferrari to make them compete.


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Re: F1 - 2010 budget cap ruling.

Post by CQR Rogue on Sat 23 May 2009 - 13:57

LOL, well if ferrari go which I doubt, then well see them in lemans next year lmp1 along with toyota as well, even talk about bmw doing another protype as well Very Happy

So not all bad lol
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Re: F1 - 2010 budget cap ruling.

Post by Matt on Sat 23 May 2009 - 18:24

I think there's a website article in all of this eh Rogue Wink



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Re: F1 - 2010 budget cap ruling.

Post by nickyf1 on Sat 23 May 2009 - 19:01

aww who cares about F1 Razz

Seriously, i'm considering not watching it and switching to Sportscars.
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Re: F1 - 2010 budget cap ruling.

Post by XTI Jon Snow on Sat 23 May 2009 - 19:57

or nascar Smile
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