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Post by HCR Carlson on Fri 8 Jun 2018 - 21:22

Incident/s you are involved in are under investigation by the stewards;

Steward Inquiry Reference Number: 379
Drivers Involved: F4H Diablo, TUS Tactical, HCR Vortex9
Series: NATCC
Round: Round 1
Race: Race 3
Lobby: A
Lap: Final Lap (16/16)

Evidence: https://youtu.be/5SuedyrJSZE

Description by F4H Diablo: Tactical moves over to the right on the straight, causing a chain reaction crash where I lost positioning on he, HCR Vortex 9, and PROD Reaper.

Stewards Decision:

Racing Incident

From the footage provided, the stewards agreed that while Tactical did move slightly to the right, the situation was mostly caused by close, three-wide racing and the "pinball" effect cars can have when side to side contact in Forza at times. It is an unfortunate incident, but one deemed to be nobody's fault.


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Post by HCR Carlson on Fri 15 Jun 2018 - 22:36

Incident/s you are involved in are under investigation by the stewards;

Steward Inquiry Reference Number: 378
Drivers Involved: DRR Media
Series: NATCC
Round: Round 1 Brands Hatch Short
Race: Race 1
Lobby: A
Lap: Lap 6 of all 16 Lap 5 of the 15 Racing Laps

Evidence: Game clip (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1l8O-rhGBld8C1c2Ke7zbd7bSqMl5r5Gk/view?usp=sharing) Download after opening.

Description by FTR Vettel: Media got a bad run out of turn 3, to which I take to the inside with the better run to take turn 4. I make a successful pass but then Media runs into the back of me (as evident by the dent marks on his front bumper and my rear bumper that appear after the collision) and I lose out 4 positions as a result of being punted into the grass

Stewards Decision:

Racing Incident/Lag

The provided footage appears to show a collision caused by lag and/or desync, as no physical contact appears to occur between Vettel and Media. Therefore, it was agreed to be put down as an unfortunate lag based racing incident.


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Post by HCR Carlson on Thu 28 Jun 2018 - 0:39

Incident/s you are involved in are under investigation by the stewards;

Steward Inquiry Reference Number: 390
Drivers Involved: CBR sslade em
Series: NATCC
Round: 2
Race: 1
Lobby: D
Lap: 10

Evidence: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/273704623

Description by hunty1981: coming out of the fast right before the Dunlop esses sslade went past me but went wide I stayed on the racing line and sslade moved over on me which made me lose 5 places

Stewards Decision:

Racing Incident

The contact was unfortunate, but Hunty's closing speed on Slade was high, and Slade likely wasn't expecting a car to come up the outside like that into the braking zone for the first part of the Dunlop chicane.


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Post by HCR Carlson on Thu 28 Jun 2018 - 0:44

Incident/s you are involved in are under investigation by the stewards;

Steward Inquiry Reference Number: 392
Drivers Involved: CBR Pacman66, Boostillla TNS R
Series: NATCC
Round: 2
Race: 3
Lobby: D
Lap: 5

Evidence: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/273708800

Description by hunty1981: going into Dunlop esses again Pacman rams into the back of me... he then loses control of the car before the start of the infield section.... going into turn 4 or 5 (the long left) Pacman then rammed Boostilla... once recovered from the crash he then stoppd on the racing line until all cars had passed


Stewards Decision:

CBR Pacman66 - Race Disqualification

As described by Hunty, the stewards witnessed overall appalling driving standards by Pacman. Multiple cases of causing avoidable contact, coupled with stopping his car on the racing line of an active track, and a clear lack of awareness all combined to result in a race DQ being agreed upon by the stewards.


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Post by HCR Carlson on Thu 5 Jul 2018 - 21:23

Incident/s you are involved in are under investigation by the stewards;

Steward Inquiry Reference Number: 402
Drivers Involved: GTR Merginator, Tarponboy95
Series: NATCC
Round: Round 3
Race: Race 3
Lobby: D
Lap: 15/15

Evidence: https://youtu.be/MILqtdItns4 http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/rocinante117/video/54506585

Description by Tarponboy95: I spent the whole race trying to catch GTR from 800 feet back. I finally caught him with 2 laps to go and I was trying to find a good spot to pass him. Finally on the last lap in turn 3 I got side by side with him on exit and I completed the pass in turn 4. As soon as we got to turn 5 he was behind me and the clip shows he hit the gas mid corner to hit me off course so he could win the race.

Stewards Decision:

GTR Merginator: -2 position penalty

While the stewards don't believe Merginator's actions were malicious, it is clear that he was responsible for the "bump and run" on Tarponboy which resulted in him gaining the place. A standard two position penalty was therefore agreed upon.


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Post by HCR Carlson on Thu 5 Jul 2018 - 21:28

Incident/s you are involved in are under investigation by the stewards;

Steward Inquiry Reference Number: 403
Drivers Involved: PROD Forza4 AMG
Series: NATCC
Round: 3
Race: 2
Lobby: A
Lap: 2

Evidence: http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/tlr-overdrive/video/54522838 http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/tlr-overdrive/video/54526851

Description by TLR Overdrive: HCR Solar and DrifitNHero are two wide into the last corner and make a little contact. In order to avoid running into the back of either of them, TLR Overdrive is forced to slow down exiting the corner. However, immediately after slowing up, PROD Forza4 AMG hits the rear of TLR Overdrive causing him to lose grip and sim twitch into the outside wall, dropping him to last place.

Stewards Decision:

PROD Forza4 AMG: -2 position penalty

While the sim twitch into the wall by Overdrive was unfortunate and made things much worse, it was facilitated by PROD Forza4 AMG making contact. The stewards agreed on a standard two position drop for causing avoidable contact.


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Post by HCR Carlson on Thu 5 Jul 2018 - 21:36

Incident/s you are involved in are under investigation by the stewards;

Steward Inquiry Reference Number: 389
Drivers Involved: FTR Cervy
Series: NATCC
Round: 2
Race: Quallies
Lobby: Diablo's
Lap: 1

Evidence: https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/35359334_2451919281492287_3569957003751063552_n.png?_nc_cat=0&oh=4aa228ae938356c30c669f00eaadc0cb&oe=5BB15CC5

Description by Flyin Mikey J: Drove backwards on track to gain an additional hot lap of qualifying.

Stewards Decision:

FTR Cervy: Demoted to last place for the round

As the evidence shows, Cervy did indeed breach TORA regulations by driving backwards on a live race track, presumably to get an extra flying lap in the qualifying session. This breach was discovered after qualifying and before the night's racing began, however Cervy was allowed by his lobby host to stay in A lobby, while he should have been demoted to the back of the lowest lobby, as his qualifying times were invalidated by the wrong way driving. Therefore, the stewards agreed that Cervy will be stripped of his results from the round, and be given the points for finishing last in the lowest lobby in their place.

The stewards would like to remind everyone that you are never, ever permitted to drive the wrong way on live race track in any TORA event, and if caught you will always be disqualified from the session.


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Post by HCR Carlson on Thu 5 Jul 2018 - 23:39

Incident/s you are involved in are under investigation by the stewards;

Steward Inquiry Reference Number: 401
Drivers Involved: DRR Road Kill, SFM Darkzer
Series: NATCC
Round: 3
Race: 3
Lobby: B
Lap: 2

Evidence: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGRuXO0j8Xw

Description by SFM Darkzer: Road Kill hooked me, hit me a few more times, and ruined my 3rd race after I already got killed on the start. Ugh.

Stewards Decision:

DRR Road Kill: -3 position penalty

The stewards agreed that Road Kill was responsible for the contact, and didn't help the situation by trying to drive through Darkzer after already turning him.


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Post by SFM Darkzer on Fri 27 Jul 2018 - 2:06

Steward Inquiry Reference Number: 411
Drivers Involved: aceCaptain Slow, PedanticSquirel
Series: NATCC
Round: 4 - Nurburgring GP
Race: Round 1
Lobby: B
Lap: 1st lap (after formation lap)

Evidence: https://youtu.be/t0dEhcJdP_E

Description by aceCaptain Slow: PedanticSquirel t-boned my car heading through the first corner, costing me 8 positions.

Stewards decision: Racing Incident

The stewards agreed that no fault can be apportioned.




Steward Inquiry Reference Number: 410
Drivers Involved: FTR Vettel, i Am Tactiical
Series: NATCC
Round: 4 (Nurburgring GP)
Race: 1
Lobby: A
Lap: 4

Evidence: Replay: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1M4gQaB_axjaHUQtIA2lpgjdWMb32GcwH/view?usp=sharing
From Tacticals broadcast:
https://clips.twitch.tv/AmusedAgileBaconJonCarnage

Description by FTR Vettel: Tactical gets the run on me past the Schumacher S so I take the inside to defend. Tactical runs wide having taken the outside and goes beyond the white line. Having ran wide, I expected him to lift as per track extending. When he doesn't he has his front wheel with my rear wheel, and to make the corner I brake, but given his position from extending he sends it up the inside. While I did cut in, this was because I was expecting him to lift and not use the advantage he gained from extending, and I paid the bigger price.

Stewards Decision: Racing Incident

While the stewards did see minor contact, nothing warranting a penalty was observed.




Steward Inquiry Reference Number: 409
Drivers Involved: FTR Vettel, HCR Solar, PROD CAPT SLOW
Series: NATCC
Round: 4 (Nurburgring GP)
Race: 3
Lobby: A
Lap: 3

Evidence: https://clips.twitch.tv/UglyCarelessSheepTheThing (Tacticals stream)
Since Solar left and the clip above its hard to see I have the replay with my perspective and CAPT SLOW that shows the incident:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NqWL5m1SWbJciUJGcNunp20HViieFVi5/view?usp=sharing

Description by FTR Vettel: Solar hit the barrier going side by side through the second part of the chicane. Seeing him with obvious damage, I brake to try to avoid, but CAPT SLOW behind me hits my rear right into Solar, giving me damage and forcing me to take a pit. (The stream clip shows it was NOT lag and that it was a replay glitch which despite the replay not showing contact there definitely was)

Stewards Decision: Racing Incident

The stewards sympathies are with Vettel, however this incident was caused by a tire wall where there should not be one rather than poor driving.




Steward Inquiry Reference Number: 391
Drivers Involved: CBR pacman66
Series: NATCC
Round: 2
Race: 2
Lobby: D
Lap: 4/5

Evidence: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/273706338

Description by hunty1981: After coming out of the Dunlop esses I had the inside line into the infield section and pacman continued to turn into me... on checking telemetry he kept steering left

Stewards Decision: Racing Incident

The stewards agreed that Pacman had nowhere to go, and that hunty was not overly aggressive.




Steward Inquiry Reference Number: 415
Drivers Involved: FTR Vettel, EVR Mead 212
Series: NATCC
Round: Round 5 (Silverstone National)
Race: 3
Lobby: A
Lap: 4

Evidence: https://drive.google.com/file/d/18vRvfNuy68tDoOScyvZSsiLiHf26fQ03/view?usp=sharing

Description by FTR Vettel: Mead made a big lunge going into Brooklands. I even reacted to try and avoid contact but he just appears to not turn in or slow down and hits my rear. Costs me two spots. The move seemed reckless and I was surprised even when I move to avoid there was still contact.

Stewards Decision: Racing Incident

The stewards agreed that Mead's lunge was not out of line.




Steward Inquiry Reference Number: 416
Drivers Involved: FTR Cervy, PROD CAPT SLOW
Series: NATCC
Round: 5 (Silverstone National)
Race: 1
Lobby: A
Lap: 1

Evidence: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lFk_tP90B1RsuggL2sgInC2bVlOv2k6U/view?usp=sharing

Description by FTR Vettel: CAPT SLOW was behind me and dived up the inside of 2 in a reckless move that hit Cervy really hard and CAPT SLOW gains positions while Cervy loses out.

Stewards Decision: Racing Incident

A minor incident was observed, but the position was redressed immediately and the initial contact was not egregious.




Steward Inquiry Reference Number: 417
Drivers Involved: UMS GGRacing, GTR Corsa, DRR Road Kill, xDR TRIFECTAx, iFARM SALT
Series: NATCC
Round: 5
Race: 3
Lobby: B
Lap: 2

Evidence: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HK_xTG8p-1A

Description by SFM Darkzer: Race start. GGRacing throw an epic dive into T2, destroying Corsa's car and significantly impeding the other drivers mentioned. Corsa's car was 100% broken and he finished a lap down. B lobby was experiencing a comical amount of lag, however the cause of this crash is squarely on GGRacing's poor judgement and failure to control his car. I finished 3.5 seconds behind AMR Deathmonstr by race end, likely would have caught him if not for this.

Stewards Decision:

UMS GGRacing: -5 position penalty

The stewards agreed that GGRacing showed poor judgement with his attempted late dive off the track. Therefore, a large penalty was imposed.




Steward Inquiry Reference Number: 420
Drivers Involved: T9M JOKER / CBR PacMan66
Series: NATCC
Round: 5
Race: 2
Lobby: C
Lap: 1

Evidence: https://youtu.be/orOX3cpFLBM

Description by T9M JOKER: Video 0 - 39 secs

lap 1, turn 4. Pacman locks up under braking, makes contact with car infront, bounces off and makes contact with me on the outside, slightly putting me off line. I try to the make it around the outside of the corner and avoid the crash, however on Pacman's correction, he over corrects and makes contact with me again taking us both off the track. No damage, but lose of track position.

Steward Decision: Racing Incident

The stewards agreed that Pacman simply lost control of his car on the brakes.




Steward Inquiry Reference Number: 424
Drivers Involved: CBR Pacman66
Series: NATCC
Round: 5
Race: 3
Lobby: C
Lap: 9/10

Evidence: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/284336235

Description by hunty1981: coming into the start of the national section CBR Pacman seemed to always brake earlier than me so i spotted a gap and went for it however he hit my rear quarter and caused me to lose places as it made me lose control of the car. He stated that he gave me space but i would like to know where as that corner is very wide as it is

Stewards Decision: Racing Incident

hunty1981: Warning for a massive track extension

The actual incident is minor, however the stewards agreed that Hunty massively extended the track.




Steward Inquiry Reference Number: 425
Drivers Involved: CBR Pacman66, UeharaTofu
Series: NATCC
Round: 5
Race: 3
Lobby: C
Lap: 13/14

Evidence: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/284336236

Description by hunty1981: Same bend as the previous SI CBR Pacman66 was hit from behind by UeharaTofu so i went tighter into the bend to avoid the incident... however CBR Pacman decided to aim for the apex of the corner and again hit my rear quarter and again cost me 3/4 places

Stewards Decision: Racing Incident

The stewards determined that Pacman was not at fault.




Steward Inquiry Reference Number: 421
Drivers Involved: T9M JOKER / Chief Tokembowl
Series: NATCC
Round: 5
Race: 2
Lobby: C
Lap: 2

Evidence: https://youtu.be/orOX3cpFLBM

Description by T9M JOKER: Video 44sec - 1.15

Lap 2, turn 4. Got tapped from behind by Chief Tokembowl. Lost track position

Stewards Decision: Racing Incident

The stewards concluded that lag was the culprit.




Steward Inquiry Reference Number: 422
Drivers Involved: T9M JOKER / HCCR creech172
Series: NATCC
Round: 5
Race: 3
Lobby: C
Lap: 12 - 15

Evidence: https://youtu.be/orOX3cpFLBM

Description by T9M JOKER: Video - 1.17 - onwards

Lap 12 in 1st place, approaching turn 4 where HCCR creech172 is 2 laps down in 16th place. Despite the fact of this he didn't move out of the way, so in the braking zone I tried to get up the inside of him. He kept turning in, kept turning in, so I kept turning in, but then at the last second he turned sharper (as evident by the different color in the road surface) and I made contact with him causing damage to my car (unsure of his), and needing to pit, loosing track position and places.
Exited the pits on lead lap, but in 13th place.


Lap 15 turn 4 again, HCCR creech172 again fails to get out of the way, and instead brake tests me, causing more damage. Telemetry also added.
His brake marker was extremely early compared to his previous lap (lap 14) which is 2.29 onwards in the video.

It took me 12 laps to catch the back of the field, the first incident happened, and then even after pitting it only took me another 2 laps to catch him again in the same place? How and why was he so slow waiting for me again.

Stewards Decision: Inconclusive

The evidence provided did not provide any clear indication of malicious action.


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