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Post by blkghost187 on Mon 1 Apr 2019 - 17:26

There is a incorrect Front Width for the GT3 2014 #62 Risi Competizione 458 Italia GTLM
The build list on this thread shows
Front Width 300/30R18.
The correct Front Width 300/35R18

Also 2014 McLaren #60 Bhaitech 12C GT3
The build list on this thread shows
Rear Width 350/30R18
The correct Rear Width 350/35R18
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Post by SFM Darkzer on Mon 1 Apr 2019 - 18:40

JSR LeeCampbell wrote:
MNR Elgaard wrote:After building the cars to the for the GT4 Following the specs, i found out that the number seems to be of on 2 of the cars. I feel like i have checked and double checked. that its correct.

Cars with this number problem is = Jaguar GT4 and the McLaren GT4

The Jag numbers seems to be of slightly
The McLaren has the correct numbers with 245 front tirewidth. but in the spec list it says 255.

Have a great day!
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Yeah I am getting the same issues with the McLaren, it's 3lbs heavier and 2PI more than it should be and dropping front tyres sorts this.

I've passed that to the dev team, should be fixed shortly! Just wanna make sure which part needs editing first.


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Post by SFM Darkzer on Mon 1 Apr 2019 - 18:44

blkghost187 wrote:There is a incorrect Front Width for the GT3 2014 #62 Risi Competizione 458 Italia GTLM
The build list on this thread shows
Front Width 300/30R18.
The correct Front Width 300/35R18

Also 2014 McLaren #60 Bhaitech 12C GT3
The build list on this thread shows
Rear Width 350/30R18
The correct Rear Width 350/35R18

I've just checked those, good catch! Fixing that now.


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Post by blkghost187 on Mon 1 Apr 2019 - 19:29

SFM Darkzer wrote:
blkghost187 wrote:There is a incorrect Front Width for the GT3 2014 #62 Risi Competizione 458 Italia GTLM
The build list on this thread shows
Front Width 300/30R18.
The correct Front Width 300/35R18

Also 2014 McLaren #60 Bhaitech 12C GT3
The build list on this thread shows
Rear Width 350/30R18
The correct Rear Width 350/35R18

I've just checked those, good catch! Fixing that now.
No Problem! Smile
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Post by AMS Huracan on Mon 1 Apr 2019 - 22:31

For those having issues with GT4 builds it was a slight typo on our end at dev team will be resolved tonight Smile


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Post by SFM Darkzer on Mon 1 Apr 2019 - 23:17

Should be fixed now. Thanks again for pointing that out!


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Post by TX3 xRaCeR on Sun 7 Apr 2019 - 19:21

Hi Guys, im testing some cars and there is an issue with : 2015 Lamborghini #63 Huracán LP620-2 Super Trofeo
GT3 Weight (lb : 2925lbs)

with Stock Driveline we have Weight (lb : 2930lbs)

and

with Race Driveline we have Weight (lb : 2925lbs)

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Post by SubaruWRX522 on Thu 25 Apr 2019 - 17:44

Can we get an explanation for why the builds changed?
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Post by SubaruWRX522 on Thu 25 Apr 2019 - 17:52

Also the build on the lambo is wrong.

The only way to reach 850PI and 617hp is to use the race intake, race driveline and the rear tire size should be 345/30/18 not 345/35/18
The weight should be 2912.... no way to reach 2904.
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Post by SFM Darkzer on Thu 25 Apr 2019 - 20:56

SubaruWRX522 wrote:Can we get an explanation for why the builds changed?

Balance of performance was off for Catalunya. We fixed it.

SubaruWRX522 wrote:Also the build on the lambo is wrong.

The only way to reach 850PI and 617hp is to use the race intake, race driveline and the rear tire size should be 345/30/18 not 345/35/18
The weight should be 2912.... no way to reach 2904.

I fixed the Lambo build on the doc, sorry for the confusion!


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Post by RZM Vettel on Sun 28 Apr 2019 - 23:28

Any consideration for change of BoP for GT4? Aston blitzed the straights and was the same through the turns compared to the Merc.


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Post by SFM Darkzer on Mon 29 Apr 2019 - 0:23

Aerox Vettel wrote:Any consideration for change of BoP for GT4? Aston blitzed the straights and was the same through the turns compared to the Merc.

Consider? Sure. Change? Maybe not. We'll definitely look them over again.


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Post by RZM Vettel on Mon 29 Apr 2019 - 0:30

SFM Darkzer wrote:
Aerox Vettel wrote:Any consideration for change of BoP for GT4? Aston blitzed the straights and was the same through the turns compared to the Merc.

Consider? Sure. Change? Maybe not. We'll definitely look them over again.

Yeah not demanding a change but an inquiry would definitely be appreciated
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Post by LMR Harmonic on Mon 29 Apr 2019 - 12:54

SFM Darkzer wrote:
Aerox Vettel wrote:Any consideration for change of BoP for GT4? Aston blitzed the straights and was the same through the turns compared to the Merc.

Consider? Sure. Change? Maybe not. We'll definitely look them over again.

Consider a change to the Camaro, too. The thing is an absolute dog. 360 lbs heavier than the Aston, and it's on skinnier tires.
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Post by blkghost187 on Mon 29 Apr 2019 - 15:29

Could the #92 911 RSR GT3 get a Front Width upgrade from the stock 300/35R18? This will help handling and minimized oversteer. The tyres in the rear are good.
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Post by LMR Harmonic on Mon 29 Apr 2019 - 21:11

blkghost187 wrote:Could the #92 911 RSR GT3 get a Front Width upgrade from the stock 300/35R18? This will help handling and minimized oversteer. The tyres in the rear are good.

1. Front tires will make oversteer worse, not better.
2. The car is on pace already, so giving it more will make it too fast. This isn't supposed to be a request thread; rather, it's meant to keep the car list as objectively balanced as possible.
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Post by EVR Matt212 on Mon 29 Apr 2019 - 21:52

Can something be done about the Audi R8, pretty even with the Aston down the straight but just nothing through the corners, I haven't tested too many of the other cars but the Aston just seems the most 'well rounded' ie it has no weakness, quick down the straight but has nearly the same handling ability as the Merc, hope this can be looked into Smile
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Post by blkghost187 on Mon 29 Apr 2019 - 22:48

LMR Harmonic wrote:
blkghost187 wrote:Could the #92 911 RSR GT3 get a Front Width upgrade from the stock 300/35R18? This will help handling and minimized oversteer. The tyres in the rear are good.

1. Front tires will make oversteer worse, not better.
2. The car is on pace already, so giving it more will make it too fast. This isn't supposed to be a request thread; rather, it's meant to keep the car list as objectively balanced as possible.
Correction the rear tires need to be stock to help minimized understeer. No this is not a "request thread" just a comment to BoP. In that case. BMW needs a power handicap. The 911 is slow down the straights ( Catalunya) Then the Bentley more handicap. These are IMO.
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Post by SubaruWRX522 on Tue 30 Apr 2019 - 4:27

blkghost187 wrote:
LMR Harmonic wrote:
blkghost187 wrote:Could the #92 911 RSR GT3 get a Front Width upgrade from the stock 300/35R18? This will help handling and minimized oversteer. The tyres in the rear are good.

1. Front tires will make oversteer worse, not better.
2. The car is on pace already, so giving it more will make it too fast. This isn't supposed to be a request thread; rather, it's meant to keep the car list as objectively balanced as possible.
Correction the rear tires need to be stock to help minimized understeer. No this is not a "request thread" just a comment to BoP. In that case. BMW needs a power handicap. The 911 is slow down the straights ( Catalunya) Then the Bentley more handicap. These are IMO.

Keep in mind that some cars will be weak at one track but be strong at another. Every car has their weakness... its your job to overcome it with tuning and skill.
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Post by blkghost187 on Tue 30 Apr 2019 - 4:51

SubaruWRX522 wrote:
blkghost187 wrote:
LMR Harmonic wrote:
blkghost187 wrote:Could the #92 911 RSR GT3 get a Front Width upgrade from the stock 300/35R18? This will help handling and minimized oversteer. The tyres in the rear are good.

1. Front tires will make oversteer worse, not better.
2. The car is on pace already, so giving it more will make it too fast. This isn't supposed to be a request thread; rather, it's meant to keep the car list as objectively balanced as possible.
Correction the rear tires need to be stock to help minimized understeer. No this is not a "request thread" just a comment to BoP. In that case. BMW needs a power handicap. The 911 is slow down the straights ( Catalunya) Then the Bentley more handicap. These are IMO.

Keep in mind that some cars will be weak at one track but be strong at another. Every car has their weakness... its your job to overcome it with tuning and skill.
True. Thanks SubaruWRX522
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Post by MRT Peter86 on Thu 2 May 2019 - 22:41

The rear tyres on this merc 2014 Mercedes-Benz #84 SLS AMG GT3 are 330/40/18
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Post by SFM Darkzer on Tue 7 May 2019 - 22:01

Please note some cars were changed for Catalunya! The BoP doc on page 1 is updated.


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Post by SubaruWRX522 on Tue 7 May 2019 - 22:10

SFM Darkzer wrote:Please note some cars were changed for Catalunya! The BoP doc on page 1 is updated.
Can we stop changing the cars every race? I don't have time to make changes and retune the entire car the week of the race. My life is busy enough as is. I'm positive I'm not alone. It's getting ridiculous guys.
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Post by MRT ANM 79 on Tue 7 May 2019 - 22:47

Whilst I understand the idea of trying to balance cars but surely as the cars are the same as last year basically what is going on, if we had more warning it wouldn't be so bad but everyone has been practicing with the current build then basically have to start again.
Just a bit crazy to me but hey ho
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Post by OlivoTheJackal on Tue 7 May 2019 - 23:28

This is getting out of hand. Really, TORA? I wonder, does the TORA staff test the cars before publishing builds? Making changes to the builds every track implies an "eh not really" kind of answer and I'm disappointed that 1: Y'all don't really know what to do with these cars as evidenced by the Camaro's performance and 2: You all wait till there's just a few days to race day to make the changes, making tuners hurry up their setups and reduce the driver's practice hours and build familiarity.

On my opinion, I personally think it's just unprofessional to do it in the midst of the season and not do it before it starts. Like for example, why not do this when the calendar was announced in March so drivers and tuners didn't have to change builds every race?
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