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Post by Ax4x Mikey J on Wed 4 Mar 2020 - 23:29

Welcome to Spec Miata 2020!

Spec Miata is one of SCCA's longest running amateur classes, and the most common car on the grid is still the original Gen 1 MX-5 Miata.

We've added the comfortable feeling one can get from Race Brakes, Race Tires, and Race Differential, while keeping literally everything else untuneable. This makes driver much more important than tune, and keeps this series as low-maintenance as driving your street Miata to the track for a race.

With all that in mind, paint up your classic little hairdresser special and let's go racing!


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Post by RW26 BLAZE on Thu 5 Mar 2020 - 18:08

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Post by Ax4x Mikey J on Fri 6 Mar 2020 - 17:01

Reminder: Registration opens Monday, March 10 at each region's race time.

Numbers are first come first served.


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Post by DDM Driv3 on Fri 6 Mar 2020 - 18:46

I'm confused at why this car has been chosen over something like the much newer MX5 cup car and why it's got race tyres. what's wrong with sport tyres and new cars?
Also the fact it's got almost no tuning ability at all? It's almost the opposite of what most people want this car to be built like... How did this happen?


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Post by LMP Dragon on Fri 6 Mar 2020 - 21:04

DDM Driv3 wrote:I'm confused at why this car has been chosen over something like the much newer MX5 cup car and why it's got race tyres. what's wrong with sport tyres and new cars?
Also the fact it's got almost no tuning ability at all? It's almost the opposite of what most people want this car to be built like... How did this happen?

Because this is a real spec cup and not like recent ones. This is exactly how they should be done and how spec cups started.

No tuning here, all skill. How it should be. Like the old days. Real spec cup is back boys!
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Post by Ax4x Mikey J on Sat 7 Mar 2020 - 1:28

DDM Driv3 wrote:I'm confused at why this car has been chosen over something like the much newer MX5 cup car and why it's got race tyres. what's wrong with sport tyres and new cars?
Also the fact it's got almost no tuning ability at all? It's almost the opposite of what most people want this car to be built like... How did this happen?

In real SCCA racing, the gen1 Miata is still the most populous car in the paddock. Likely because it is the most affordable, but it is also the lightest production MX5 to date.

We went with race tires rather than sport so that the car is a bit more predictable in the opening laps. Race tires come up to temp much quicker than sport..

Went with non-tuneable sport parts over the tuneable race parts so that you don't win races via having a better tune. It really is that simple. Then there is teh fact that SCCA Spec Miata uses spec parts that severely limit adjustments, so we're authentic in that regard.

This series was meant to be a break from tuning after the open build American Iron series.

"...what most people want..."? Not sure if that claim is accurate either


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Post by moogsy23 on Sat 7 Mar 2020 - 13:17

I like the fact that there’s limited tuning available, maybe that’s just cos I suck at tuning though lol. Makes for closer, more fun racing in my opinion.

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Post by NerdyCyclist11 on Tue 17 Mar 2020 - 0:36

Agreed, less tuning usually makes things more fun.
Although the cars look the same, why not make this closer to the real Spec Miata cars, 125-130 hp, 2300 lbs, race tires and limited suspension and brake upgrades.
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Post by SSR Outlaw on Tue 17 Mar 2020 - 0:38

Any ideas what kind of times we are looking at for Silverstone?

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Post by NerdyCyclist11 on Tue 17 Mar 2020 - 3:08

Judging by what I ran in my first 10 laps tonight, :02-:03?
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Post by SVR Solar on Tue 17 Mar 2020 - 3:23

1:02 mids will be the fastest, expect a high 1:02 for quali most likely.
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Post by FTP Hornet on Tue 17 Mar 2020 - 5:52

I did little practice yesterday and after 4 laps my fastates was 2:03.3xx

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Post by SFM Darkzer on Tue 17 Mar 2020 - 6:21

There's gonna be a few guys in the 1:02.6-1:02.9 in qualifying, then a large amount in the low to mid 3's, then a few back to the low 6's.

Just guessing.


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Post by Ax4x Mikey J on Tue 17 Mar 2020 - 6:24

NerdyCyclist11 wrote:Agreed, less tuning usually makes things more fun.
Although the cars look the same, why not make this closer to the real Spec Miata cars, 125-130 hp, 2300 lbs, race tires and limited suspension and brake upgrades.


That was my original plan, exc with Sport Tires. However, there was a push for B Class within Staff discussions, which resulted in race tires and more power.


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Post by Ax4x Mikey J on Tue 17 Mar 2020 - 6:26

SFM Darkzer wrote:There's gonna be a few guys in the 1:02.6-1:02.9 in qualifying, then a large amount in the low to mid 3's, then a few back to the low 6's.

Just guessing.


I think the majority of the field will be between 1:03.3 and 1:04.3 with a few outliers on either end of the spectrum.


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Post by NerdyCyclist11 on Wed 18 Mar 2020 - 19:37

Good to know I'm not off the back, I was close to a high :02, but I'm not consistently there.
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Post by Ax4x Mikey J on Wed 18 Mar 2020 - 23:18

NerdyCyclist11 wrote:Good to know I'm not off the back, I was close to a high :02, but I'm not consistently there.

Duuuude, you have about a full second on me. Damn good job!!!


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Post by DOR Stamina on Thu 19 Mar 2020 - 3:32

1:03.003 as my PB and I lost about 70 thousandths that lap going through the last corner. Would've been a mid to low 1:02.9 otherwise.
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Post by Ax4x Mikey J on Thu 19 Mar 2020 - 7:12

Nice Cool


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Post by LMR Manthey on Tue 24 Mar 2020 - 1:14

Lap times for Mugello?
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Post by Ax4x Cowboy on Tue 24 Mar 2020 - 1:28

1:04s towards the top, possibly even a high 3 for pole.
I'd expect there to be plenty of people to race all the way down to 1:07s and 1:08s


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Post by Ax4x Mikey J on Wed 25 Mar 2020 - 1:01

Seen 4s, hitting upper 5s myself.


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Post by isyoube on Wed 25 Mar 2020 - 2:32

Anybody able to actually get clean lap times at Mugello? I went as far as cruising around completely on the tarmac during testing and never would give me a clean lap.
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Post by Ax4x Mikey J on Wed 25 Mar 2020 - 3:28

isyoube wrote:Anybody able to actually get clean lap times at Mugello? I went as far as cruising around completely on the tarmac during testing and never would give me a clean lap.

Yes, I've been getting mostly clean laps now. I went to the Rivals, watched LMP Amoeba's lap from my driving view, with telemetry on, and rode it a few laps. Keep an eye on what lines he uses, and corner entry speeds. It helped me a bit.


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Post by isyoube on Wed 25 Mar 2020 - 14:20

Ax4x Mikey J wrote:
isyoube wrote:Anybody able to actually get clean lap times at Mugello? I went as far as cruising around completely on the tarmac during testing and never would give me a clean lap.

Yes, I've been getting mostly clean laps now. I went to the Rivals, watched LMP Amoeba's lap from my driving view, with telemetry on, and rode it a few laps. Keep an eye on what lines he uses, and corner entry speeds. It helped me a bit.

Re-read my comment. I don't need to drive behind someone to get a clean line. I kept it off the curbs, completely on the black stuff. Even turned on the boundaries, and never would give a clean lap. That's why I was asking.
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