Re: Timing Board

by **Chris** on Wed Jul 07, 2010 9:08 am

Traction Control slows you down if you have a lead foot(/finger) and you lose the back end. That's usually a sign that you've tried to take a corner too fast (on entry); something I'm quite familiar with, but once you start learning to effectively drive around that by taking better lines and being slower in/faster out, my lap times improve dramatically.

by Crisis Nine on Wed Jul 07, 2010 9:14 am

Do you use TCS?

by **Chris** on Wed Jul 07, 2010 10:01 am

In most cases yes. I aim to drive in a way that doesn't activate it, but it's always there as a safety net in case I get stupid! Laughing

by Crisis Nine on Wed Jul 07, 2010 10:42 am

Now that's a surprise to me. I always assumed that the faster drivers didn't use TCS. There's hope for the rest of us then!

by **Chris** on Wed Jul 07, 2010 11:03 am

I also use the braking line. As with TCS - it's just a reminder - when you're approaching a corner and the line's on solid red, you know you're about to FAIL!

by **Chris** on Wed Jul 07, 2010 11:06 am

by Crisis Nine on Wed Jul 07, 2010 11:34 am

Nice one for stealing my sig Chris. Wink

by nickyf1 on Wed Jul 07, 2010 12:01 pm

This is my big problem with TCS, faster drivers that don't need it who use it....

by **Chris** on Wed Jul 07, 2010 12:08 pm

nickyf1 wrote:This is my big problem with TCS, faster drivers that don't need it who use it....

If I spin off/lose the back end, would that not suggest that I did need it at that moment? It'd be a bit late to say "oh maybe I should have had TCS on" at that point, so I think that having it on as a safety net, and then driving "well" so that it never actually activates unless I screw up shouldn't affect you anyway.

Oh and Crisis, you're welcome! Laughing

by **Mark** on Wed Jul 07, 2010 1:25 pm

Im on the same boat as you Aero. I use the 'braking only' as well as tcs in cars in the higher car classes. The only R class cars I can drive comfortably without tcs is the stock cars. The rest of the R class cars, I am slower without tcs than with it. As for production based cars, I dont have a need for it, but in the case of the GT3 finale this past sunday, I turned it on to get the extra grip I was missing in that vette around some off those corners at Silverstone. Im not the biggest fan of that track, but I hope 2c the new layout make it to fm4

by lfcnicklfc on Wed Jul 07, 2010 3:35 pm

Ever since ive got Forza3 i've driven around using TCS and now im able to control the power through the car in any car and i am mostly quicker with TCS off apart from on a few tracks with a lot of slow speed corners then TCS is a maybe for me Razz

by XTI Nightrider on Wed Jul 07, 2010 3:51 pm

I dont use TCS never have in TORA never will, i setup my cars to put the power to the ground, and i use alot of throttle control. if you just squeeze on the throttle, and have a car setup for no tcs, youll be fine. if you go around slamming the throttle, youll spin. you need alot of finese to drive without tcs. i know im about 2 or 3 seconds a lap SLOWER with tcs. just a quick spring or diff change can make a car completely drivable

by **Mark** on Wed Jul 07, 2010 5:05 pm

in FM2, towards the end of the lifespan of that game and when i joined TORA, i had improved my tuning skills to the point where TCS was just as Aero called it, a 'safety net'. when the FM3 demo came out and found the Ferrari California gripped so well, i tried it without TCS, and it ran quicker times. thats when i turned it off (for the most part. Razz

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by gen3ral ts0 on Wed Jul 07, 2010 5:56 pm

ADx Garage wrote:how many cars in forza succumb to reliabilty issues tho rather than drivers messing up? thats right , NONE!

i've lagged out quite a few times... Very Happy

by GLR Gashi on Wed Jul 07, 2010 6:00 pm

I think what ever assists make the game fun for you, you should use. I personally don't use any assists in Forza 3 even learned to use the clutch recently. It makes the game fun for me. I don't think using the assists makes you less of a driver, it just makes it more fun for you. Totally acceptable, I mean it is a game after all, right?

by nickyf1 on Wed Jul 07, 2010 6:07 pm

I'm fine with the general use of driver aids, its just when good drivers that don't need it use it to gain an advantage.

by **Mark** on Wed Jul 07, 2010 6:12 pm

I, too, switched to the clutch. I switched the weekend of the GT3 meeting at catalunya. And since, im sure some of the regular A-lobby drivers may have seen the nice accel I get off the line. Smile

And in personal use, ive seen some of my tunes get roughly a full second faster

by Av8rTim on Fri Jul 09, 2010 1:22 am

Well, after a month of testing for the LM2.4 my game save was deleted on accident last night. (you can read about it over in the Community Update - Disaster Struck). Without repeating what's over there I'll just say showing up will be iffy for me for qualifying. Maybe I can be relegated to the back of the grid for GT2 on race day for not making any of the qualifying days. I wasn't hugely fast but had made solid progress. I started at 4:20 in my GT2 spec Ferrari and had it consistently in the 4:05s with a best time of 4:03.8. So I was pleased although not competitive but have been looking forward to this race meeting. I've not given up! I'll have to start the game over and what not but hopefully I'll make the race. Mad

by **Shane** on Fri Jul 09, 2010 9:35 pm

gen3ral ts0 wrote:
ADx Garage wrote:how many cars in forza succumb to reliabilty issues tho rather than drivers messing up? thats right , NONE!

i've lagged out quite a few times...

ive ran out of fuel on numerous occassions, crashed, lagged out, started hallucinating at the last lms race (saw a helicopter in the rear view mirror) so yeah stuff goes wrong big time

by **Louis** on Fri Jul 09, 2010 10:19 pm

Shane wrote:
gen3ral ts0 wrote:
ADx Garage wrote:how many cars in forza succumb to reliabilty issues tho rather than drivers messing up? thats right , NONE!

i've lagged out quite a few times...

ive ran out of fuel on numerous occassions, crashed, lagged out, started hallucinating at the last lms race (saw a helicopter in the rear view mirror) so yeah stuff goes wrong big time

what the heck were you on mate?