TORA Series Qualifying

[WWR Aero]

***DISCLAIMER***

Before you read any further:

This is not a promise of any change, this is a vote to gauge reaction to an idea held by me. It has not been discussed with other staff at this point.

With the impending change of qualifying format, at least in ISCC, and possibly in WGT and NGTC (this depends on confirmation from Duncan and Scot respectively) to a 15min open qualification session (no set number of laps to run - find your own free air), I would like to gauge reaction to the possibility of adding to this change in the following way:

Collisions will remain ON.
It is your responsibility to find clear air to run in.

Now, to add some spice(!):

CLEAN qualifying laps will be rewarded by taking priority over DIRTY laps.
At the end of qualifying, the times will be taken, and marked C or D, which is clear from the ordering on the score table.

Yes, you may get a lap "dirtied" by someone drafting you/drafting someone else, but that's TOUGH LUCK - that is part of the skill/strategy/luck element of timing your qualifying run during the allotted 15mins.

What I would appreciate here is a simple YES or NO comment below. If NO please put a quick reason for consideration.

I would have put this as a standard poll style post, however I actually want to know who feels which way, as there may be a split between "new" members and "old", and I want to be able to gauge that.

I'm not really looking for this thread to become a discussion at this point for alternatives/tweaks (I know there's a bunch of you that will suggest collisions OFF straight away. I'm aware of that thought, however collisions OFF removes the strategy element I'm trying to introduce this way).

If you have any ideas like that, please PM them to me.

[BG Chucky 82]

Yes

[SelectiveRogue]

WGT Quali rules updated to include 15 minutes of quali time as in line with ISCC.

[VVV worm]

YES

[SelectiveRogue]

Oh and Yes to the below idea -

My preference would be for it to be fully one way or the other - by which I mean either:
- collisions off and clean laps (i.e. a hotlap style qualifying session) or
- collisions on and dirty laps allowed (i.e. real world qualifying)

[CQR Magictap]

yes

[VVV Grimm]

Yes sounds good

[Crisis Nine]

No. Purely because im rubbish and i always end up setting dirty laps.

[ATR DAN]

YES!

[CQR Senna]

No not going to have every lap ruined by someone trying to find space
(With the clean lap rule anyway)
Yes with dirty laps

[GTR Evoluzione]

Yes to 15mins for all..

clean vs. dirty is a bit dodgy as someone drafting you dirties your lap.. you can't account for guy infront or behind and what pace they are running at, you can make as much space as you like, but someone coming within 12 car lengths and trashing your session seems a bit unfair.

so its yes/no from me.. but if both have to go together then its yes/yes from me.

[WWR Aero]

Do you not think that in 15mins you could sit at the side of the track and find a gap in which to set a clean lap?

[CQR Senna]

Not really i dont mind waiting at the start but im not going to keep stoping to let the tyres get nice and cold just incase someone who isnt anywhere near me might catch abit of slipstream. Seriously with the way you have always done the times 15min quali is a great idea but if you have to get clean laps you might aswell turn collisions off. (which is rubbish)

[WWR Aero]

OK. I'll wait for more comments to coming in before addressing queries like this.

[f4 wozza]

gadge2010 yes

orrell2010 yes

VVV Bobcat yes

have not spoke to gadge and orrell yet but this is what i think they would say. will change if they think diifferently

[Richy59]

No - only with regards to the clean lap thing. I am not a good qualifier and I would always end up with either dirtying my laps unintentionally or getting a draft or trying to let someone past and ruining their lap. Yes if that wasn't included. Same as berty

[WWR Aero]

What if we ran in exactly the same way but with with collisions OFF, and discouraged people from passing through another car? i.e. you still look to run in clear air, but you don't get affected by draft, and if you have to pass another car, you go around not through it.

[CQR Senna]

I see what you mean even with collisions off people still want space its a pain having someones car inside you. Cant see many people driving round a ghost though lol

[CQR MAGiC]

I definitely support a longer session (15 minutes is ideal) - 2 flying laps in the NGTC isn't even long enough to warm up the tyres! lol

My preference would be for it to be fully one way or the other - by which I mean either:
- collisions off and clean laps (i.e. a hotlap style qualifying session) or
- collisions on and dirty laps allowed (i.e. real world qualifying)

Either would be fine for me!

[CQR Senna]

I definitely support a longer session (15 minutes is ideal) - 2 flying laps in the NGTC isn't even long enough to warm up the tyres! lol

My preference would be for it to be fully one way or the other - by which I mean either:
- collisions off and clean laps (i.e. a hotlap style qualifying session) or
- collisions on and dirty laps allowed (i.e. real world qualifying)

Either would be fine for me!

Totally agree with that